Early Church Fathers on “Why do you call me Good?” Mark 10:18

This topic of Mark 10:18 became a hot topic to use against Christians when it was brought up during a Q&A session during a “Debate: Is Jesus The Most High God | GodLogic Vs. The Orthodox Muslim.” Mark 10:18 was a question to God Logic, Logic answered correctly and Lybiano answered after him, lying on several sources like the church Fathers and the proper interpretation of Mark 10:18 in its full context. Lybiano made a clip of that moment that went viral, where Logic wasn’t allowed to respond back making it seem like Lybiano had a point. Later, Logic’s friend made a response and other Christians made clear responses to these heinous distortions Lybiano made, (Life’s Response). Lybiano later responded with Deen Responds towards this video, in this video. This video will be addressed and the assertions made. 

The topic of Mark 10:18 gained traction as a common objection against Christians after it was raised during a Q&A session in the debate titled “Is Jesus the Most High God? | GodLogic vs. The Orthodox Muslim.” The verse was posed as a challenge to GodLogic, who gave a sound response. However, Lybiano followed up with a misleading interpretation, misrepresenting both the Church Fathers and the full context of Mark 10:18. He later clipped the exchange excluding GodLogic’s rebuttal causing the video to go viral and giving the false impression that Lybiano had made a valid point. In response, GodLogic’s friend released a video (titled Life’s Response), along with other Christian apologists who addressed and refuted Lybiano’s distortions. Lybiano then responded with another video titled Deen Responds, which this current video will thoroughly address, along with the claims it presents.

Always pay attention to the dishonest tactics some Muslims employ when presenting evidence. One common method is not only to cite evidence but also to weave in a narrative that goes beyond what the evidence actually proves. In many cases, they cannot demonstrate that their claims are true; they only present them as if they were.

For example, early in the video Deen asserts that Matthew or the scribes changed a verse because of a supposed theological problem. That’s not a fact; it’s an assumption framed as if it were true. Even if, for argument’s sake, later scribes thought they saw a theological issue, that doesn’t mean one actually existed. It could just as easily reflect a misunderstanding or misinterpretation on their part, not an inherent problem in the text itself.

Tertullian (155–160 AD to after 220 AD)

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf04.iii.viii.ii.html

Tertullian only applies this passage to the Character of God and how we are to be as merciful as God is. The Son’s goodness is not addressed by him.

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/03124.htm

https://ccel.org/ccel/tertullian/against_marcion/anf03.v.iv.v.xxxvi.html

  1. Tertullian does not explicitly identify the Father here in the same way as in other texts where the Father is mentioned by name. The objector may appeal to the context of the passages, which indeed address the Father. That is true. However, it is equally true that these passages also address the divinity of both the Father and the Son by default in Trinitarian doctrine. Highlighting one person of the Trinity is not a negation of the others that would be a fallacy of dichotomy.
  2. In Trinitarian doctrine, references to “God” can be personal as well as essential. Scripture may use the name “God” to emphasize one divine person, because each person is materially identical with the one divine essence. Thus, when Tertullian highlights “God” in this section, it can be understood theologically as a reference to God’s nature itself, which belongs equally to Father, Son, and Spirit. This does not exclude the Son or Spirit, but places the focus on the divine nature.
  3. Appeals to singular pronouns do not prove exclusivity. Some argue that singular pronouns in these texts show that only the Father is in view. This objection, however, overlooks biblical usage. Scripture frequently applies singular pronouns to collective realities such as entire nations (Ezk. 16:1-14; Hos. 2:2-23; Is. 47:1-15; Jer. 3:6-10; Mic. 4:11-13; Lam. 1:1-6; Josh. 11:23; Jdg. 1:8; Jdg. 1:35; Jdg. 20:12-13), without implying that those nations are reducible to one individual person. In the same way, the use of singular pronouns for God does not exclude the other persons of the Trinity.

To not include these points would deliberately ignore Tertullian’s full view without cherry picking. Herer are some of his statements

There is more that could be said, but the point is already clear. Some may raise red herrings against Tertullian calling him a subordinationist, a social trinitarian, or nitpicking his early and unrefined articulation drawn from Scripture. Yet none of this changes the fact that he believed in the Trinity. Like many of the Ante-Nicene writers, his formulation was rough, but it was still a sincere attempt to express biblical truth. We cannot impose the verbatim fallacy or the presentism fallacy, demanding later precision from those writing at the dawn of theological reflection.

The point here is that in these two quotations from Tertullian along with his other writings it is unmistakable that he taught the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to share the same divine substance of the one God. Ironically, even in the very passages Muslims cite (“that there is one only good God”), Tertullian elsewhere affirms that the Father and the Son are of “one undivided substance.”

So, does Tertullian ever articulate the exact quotation Muslims are looking for? No. Let’s go to the next one.

Tertullian and the Doctrine of the Trinity
Tertullian: Trinity is the Faith of the Ancient Church
TRINITY IN IRENAEUS & TERTULLIAN
DID TERTULLIAN DENY THE ETERNAL NATURE OF CHRIST?
Tertullian and the Doctrine of the Trinity
Matthew 2:15 and Hosea 11:1: A Misapplication or Fulfillment?
Does the New Testament Lie About Prophecy?
Does paul Accurately Quote Psalm 68:18
THE TRINITY IN TARGUM NEOFITI
The Trinity in Neofiti Revisited
THE TRINITY IN THE ARAMAIC TARGUMS
GOD’S SON IN TARGUM NEOFITI REVISITED

Irenaeus (130 to 202 AD)

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103120.htm

When dealing with Irenaeus, it is crucial to recognize that he is not offering his own interpretation of Mark 10:18 but reporting the claims of the Valentinian Gnostics. In Against Heresies (1.20.2), he records their assertion that when Jesus said, “Why callest thou Me good? There is One who is good, the Father in the heavens,” the phrase “in the heavens” referred to the Aeons of their speculative system. Irenaeus cites this not to endorse it but to expose it as a distortion of Scripture, part of the heretics’ strategy of importing alien cosmological categories into the biblical text. He treats such interpretations as unfounded assertions rather than legitimate exegesis, and his own theology is clear elsewhere, where he explicitly calls Christ “God, who became man” (Adv. Haer. 3.19.3). Far from denying the Son’s divinity or goodness, Irenaeus shows that heretics were already twisting this verse in the second century, and that the Church rejected such misuse. Thus, the mere presence of the word “Father” does not prove an early variant reading, since Irenaeus is simply quoting what the heretics claimed about this verse.

Irenaeus elsewhere says..

IRENAEUS AND THE DEITY OF CHRIST

MORE FROM IRENAEUS ON THE DEITY OF CHRIST

TRINITY IN IRENAEUS & TERTULLIAN

Justin Martyr (100 to 165 AD)

https://www.logoslibrary.org/justin/apology1/16.html

Justin cites this verse to affirm monotheism and to defend Christians as worshipers of the one true God and as faithful citizens. This directly undermines the Muslim argument, since Justin’s use of the passage reflects the very reading we find in Scripture, demonstrating continuity between the biblical text and its reception in the Ante-Nicene era.

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01287.htm

Jesus does not deny His own goodness in this passage; rather, He poses a rhetorical question while identifying the Father as good. Muslims often interpret this as if highlighting the Father’s goodness somehow excludes the Son and the Spirit, but that is both a non sequitur and a strawman. Emphasizing one divine person does not negate the others, since in Trinitarian theology the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are materially identical with the one divine essence they share. Nor does this verse necessarily represent a textual variant such a claim lacks evidence. One can not make such a statement unless they have an actual manuscript, and even if it were the only place the wording appeared, it would not establish a genuine alternative reading. It must also be remembered that in the ancient world, both Christians and Jews sometimes adapted phrasing for theological instruction; this was not seen as corrupting Scripture, since the underlying text remained unchanged. As scholars such as John McClintock and James Strong have noted, the key issue lies in interpretation, not textual corruption. Moreover, Justin Martyr elsewhere explicitly affirms…

Justin just like Hippolytus could have combined verses together. Mark 10:18 and Matthew 5:45.

Justin is calling Jesus YHWH that appeared to Abraham (Gn. 18:1-2) and that the other two men that were with YHWH are called angels (Gn. 19:1). Recounting Genesis 18-19. The Father is YHWH and Justin Martyr is clearly calling Jesus YHWH, God and creator of the World. This cherry picked argument falls apart. Justin says that Christ is BEFORE ALL creatures in his dialoge with Trypho, Chapter 61-62

Justin identifies Jesus as YHWH who appeared to Abraham in Genesis 18:1-2, while the two other men accompanying Him are described as angels in Genesis 19:1. In recounting Genesis 18-19, Justin distinguishes the Father as YHWH yet also clearly affirms that Jesus Himself is YHWH, God, and the Creator of the world. This shows why attempts to cherry-pick the “Good Teacher” passage collapse under scrutiny. In Dialogue with Trypho 61-62, Justin explicitly declares that Christ existed before all creatures, affirming His eternal divinity rather than denying it.

Here is where YHWH is called good ἀγαθός (agathos, “good”) like in Mark 10:18, therefore making Jesus good by nature.

Psalm 73:1 (LXX)

“Surely God is good to Israel, To those who are pure in heart!” – Psalm 73:1

1 Give thanks to Yahweh, for He is good; For His lovingkindness endures forever. 2 Oh let Israel say, ‘His lovingkindness endures forever.’ 3 Oh let the house of Aaron say, ‘His lovingkindness endures forever.’ 4 Oh let those who fear Yahweh say, ‘His lovingkindness endures forever.’ 29 Give thanks to Yahweh, for He is good; For His lovingkindness endures forever.” – Psalm 118:1-4, 29 (LSB)

Mentioned 5 times in Psalm 118 that YHWH is ἀγαθός. This quote from 

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01285.htm

JUSTIN MARTYR’S CHRISTOLOGY REVISITED

Augustine (354–430 AD)

The word Father is not mentioned here.

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf108.ii.CXVIII.html

Pelagius quotes Jesus’ words, “Why do you call Me good?” but fails to interpret them properly. Instead of explaining how Christ’s statement affirms the unique and absolute goodness of God, Pelagius attempts to neutralize the verse by citing other passages where humans are called “good.” Augustine criticizes this as poor exegesis, noting that Pelagius merely places seemingly contradictory verses side by side rather than harmonizing them in light of sound theological understanding.

Again, the word Father is not mentioned here.

St. Augustine, the Trinity & the Filioque
St. Augustine, the Trinity & the Filioque pt. 2

Basil the Great (330 to January 1, 379 AD)

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf208.ix.ccxxxvii.html

St. Basil constantly called Jesus God the Word and the radiance of God, because he is the glory of God.

ST. BASIL: JESUS AS GOD’S ANGEL & BEGOTTEN WISDOM

Hilary of Poitiers (315 to 368 A.D)

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf209.ii.v.ii.ix.html

Tatian’s Diatessaron (120-180)

Student of Justin Martyr

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf09.iv.iii.xxviii.html

Origen (185 to 254 A.D.)

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/04122.htm

Here, Like Irenaeus, He points out that the heretics misuse this verse to assert that The Father is not the creator of the heavens and the earth.

But what does He say about the goodness of the Son and the Spirit?

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/04121.htm

Origen plainly quotes the expression but notes that it is not a denial of the Son’s Divinity nor goodness, but extolling the monarchy of the Father, like a good Trinitarian.

Hippolytus (170 – 235 A.D.)

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf05.iii.iii.iii.iii.html

Once again, like the other Greek apologists, Hippolytus is pointing out that the heretics misuse this passage to speak of heretical things about the Father. The Son’s Goodness nor deity is still not addressed here. 

He mixes Mark 10:18 with Matthew 5:45. Which was a common practice in ancient times. Doesn’t mean he is denying the Son’s goodness neither is it a negation of the Trinitarian doctrine.

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf05.iii.iii.iii.iii.html#fnf_iii.iii.iii.iii-p37.1

Clement of Alexandria (150-215 A.D.)

Again, here Clement quotes it in the proper rendering, and affirms that Jesus has the same goodness as the Father, having His goodness from Him. 

https://ccel.org/ccel/clement_alex/salvation/anf02.vi.v.html

Ephrem the Syrian (306-373 A.D.)

The rich man called Jesus “good,” as if he were offering him a favor, just as some favor others with honorary titles. [The Lord] fled from that by which people favored him, so that he might show that he had received this goodness from the Father through nature and generation, and not [merely] in name. “Only one is good,” [he said], and did not remain silent, but added, “the Father,” so that he might show that the Son is good in just the way that the Father is good. Commentary on Tatian’s Diatessaron.

https://catenabible.com/com/5838fee5205c248f42e52e04

https://www.earlychristiancommentary.com/FathersScripIndex/texts.php?id=41010017

https://www.earlychristiancommentary.com/FathersScripIndex/texts.php?id=41010018

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